What does ChatGPT have to say about my new C6 change?

[Bill McCloskey]

Here is a good example of both the strength and weakness of AI in its current state. I just got a Mullen G2 9x9 and I have a change on a C6 pedal that lowers strings 5 and 6 a whole tone. I asked ChatGPT if anyone else used it, here is the answer. You'll notice it got the "chord examples" completely wrong which I have found to be the case: some things it knows, some it doesn't. when it doesn't...it just guesses, like we did when we were having a test in 5th grade:

Question about C6 pedal steel copedent. One of my pedals lowers the 5th string G two tones to F and lowers the 6th string E to D, in other words: G->F and E->D on strings 5 and 6. Has anyone else used this in a C6 pedal steel copedent.

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[John Hyland]

Yes - ChatGPT makes stuff up. Beware of the answers as it will often have errors. It seems to have an algorithm which doesn’t wish to disappoint with a “don’t know” answer.
If you query the answer, it will say yes you’re absolutely correct. Thank you for pointing that out.

[Billy Phelps]

I have used that 5 and 6 string 1 tone drop for about 15 + years. I have it on 3 of my studio guitars. It does allow for a lot of E9 licks when speed picking and for quite a few C6 swing licks. Its basically the main part of the Franklin E9 pedal which is on my left knee left rear on my guitars.
I also have a a 9th pedal on 2 guitars that raise the 4 and 8 strings on the E9 a whole tone and the 3 and 7 strings a whole tone on the C6th neck.
This allows me to play a lot of the Mooney stuff on both necks, but at a much faster speed and makes for some interesting slow chords on both necks with several pedal and knee combinations. ( PS. Don't trust the AI stuff as it is also harvesting a lot of data from your computer. It is not safe and caries a rather high security risk to any personal info you may have in your computer. )
God Bless, Billy Phelps

[Andy Henriksen]

“One of my pedals lowers the 5th string G two tones to F…”

Shouldn’t that be “two semitones?” Perhaps you just confused the poor bot!

[Kenny Davis]

Beware - I've been talking to Grok lately. They're only as smart as what they can dig up on the web. You can get them to change their answers if you stay on them.

[Dave Stagner]

As a regular AI user (ChatGPT at home, Copilot at work), I've found it almost useless for copedent stuff, or any sort of music theory. I think that's because music theory is basically just abstract math, and AI doesn't really do math - it's a layer of mental abstraction beyond language tokenization. It can sort of fake arithmetic, but math-like stuff (like music theory) is completely opaque to LLM AI.

After an experience dealing with a guitarist who doesn't understand theory either (he couldn't understand why I was playing a Dm triad over a G7, and was completely baffled when I said it was an implied G9), I asked ChatGPT what triad I should play over G major to get G9. It gave a half-dozen suggestions, all wrong. ClaudeAI did suggest a Dm, but also had several other suggestions, all wrong.

So basically, there's a lot of stuff that LLM AI like ChatGPT just does not understand, particularly about music, and will probably never understand (although it might start faking better with more training data). It's an amazing tool for some problems, but for others it's like using a sock to pound a nail.

[Kenny Davis]

I just asked a simple question: What are the top five most difficult musical instruments to learn and master? Pedal Steel wasn't mentioned in the reply. I kept coming back with info until Grok finally admitted that it was indeed very difficult. It said it would update it's knowledge base to include it.